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  Letter to Governing Body .Recorded conversations with Elders

  by Watchtower-Free in

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  i found this on youtube...very good example of twisted reasoning by elders.. .

  recorded conversations with elders by a former pioneer....a series.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pw8amuphqis.

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  Are you a good person?

  by Xanthippe in

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  something happened this week to make me think about this again.. it feels like all bets are off and i really don't know what a good person is anymore.. when i left the jws i was so sure i knew what it meant to be a good person.. this has been revised many times since.. i tend to favour the utilitarian approach, the greatest happiness for the greatest number of people.. sometimes you have to stick your neck out and say this is not good for me no matter what others may feel they need from me.. no idea where i'm going with this maybe this is a breakthrough in my life or maybe that glass of wine was stronger than i thought!.

  any thoughts?.

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  Hell no, I am not innately good. I am only human. I am selfish, egocentric and proud. But I have been trained to be good, or rather act good since birth by society's dogmas and rules. There's few out there, however, who are born good. They are our leaders who keep us from self destruction. I believe my 14 year old son belongs to this category.
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  Classic repost from AlltimeJeff; recently completely - Free!

  by WingCommander in

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  i wanted to give this very public shout-out and congratulations to alltimejeff, who i have come to find out had turned in his letter of da, twice, then was read out at the meeting recently.

  for those not knowing, atf was a 2005 gilead graduate, bethelite, missionary.

  they mean the leadership.

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  Splash, Wasblind

  Read my post again. Focus on my first sentence.

  ATJ is preaching to the choir. I have read Carl Olof Jonsson's two books and half of his website, James Penton's Apocalypse Delayed, Raymond Franz' two books, Doug Mason website, JW Facts website. I have also attended JW's meetings and conventions for many years. I have read their books of Revelation (the red book), The Finished Mystery, and many other wacky books and publications. I don't disagree with ATJ, the problem is that his piece lacks supporting evidence.

  The opening piece is missing exactly what you are providing, evidence, evidence, evidence. Thank you
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  Classic repost from AlltimeJeff; recently completely - Free!

  by WingCommander in

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  i wanted to give this very public shout-out and congratulations to alltimejeff, who i have come to find out had turned in his letter of da, twice, then was read out at the meeting recently.

  for those not knowing, atf was a 2005 gilead graduate, bethelite, missionary.

  they mean the leadership.

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  never a jw

  I am sure I can agree with most, maybe all of what ATJ said. The problem is that it all sounds like opinion without supporting evidence. What makes Carl Olof Jonsson and Raymonfd Franz so reliable is that they offer supporting evidence for their claims. I know this is a brief discourse in an internet forum, and therefore I don't expect a book to be presented, but the specifics are missing.
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  The Ray Franz Movie

  by RayPublisher in

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  been wanting to talk about this for a while... three years ago on this forum my friend cedars brought this up.

  let's do it!.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sykaxxpyos.

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  never a jw

  Great idea. Problem is that the audience is too small to recover cost, let alone make a profit.
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  Im new and need help!

  by Batman89 in

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  hello everybody, before i begin i just wanna say that i have really found alot of great posts on here that have been helpful forme , theres definitely alot of brilliant people here!.

  i am a born in jw(24 years old) ive been baptized for 7 years and was a ministerial servant for 4 years(i am no longer one).

  recently me and my parents have have woken up to ttatt(about 2 months ago).

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  You are young. Don't commit to this relationship unless she is out too. It won't work. Your learning the TTATT reduces your chances of being in a happy relationship with a commited JW.
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  Involved with a JW woman

  by jonza in

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  okay so i'm dating a born-in jw woman, she's younger than me and has no kids.

  i'm a christian man whos divorced with 2 kids.

  we're in love and seriously want to be together.

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  Tread slowly. Don't commit until you know that she has a good chance to be mentally out. The physical exit will follow.
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  BU2B's debut talk about Abiram, with TTATT seasoning

  by suavojr in

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  the debut of our beloved bu2b's ttatt talk in his local congo.... .

  in case you missed the original thread here is the link.

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/277530/1/i-need-help-talk-coming-up-and-i-need-ideas-fast#.uz4m36hdwxq.

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  Great! Expect a talk from the elders...Nah... It would be an admission that the ORG false prophesied.
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  Where Are You From?

  by finallysomepride in

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  alot of members don't have a flag or country name beside their user name, and well frequently one doesn't know where that particular person is from, tell us your country, state, county or what ever you feel like giving out.

  if you are going to post please at least devulge your country.. me, i'm originally from taranaki, new zealand via auckland.

  for the most of this decade i have been living & working in brisbane, queensland, australia.. .

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  California U.S. last 26 years, 23 years in Mexico before that.
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  Naturalism is Dead - Why Are Believers Stuck in the Past?

  by Perry in

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  2. beliefs

  sigmund freud, karl marx and charles darwin are considered the pillars of modern western thought.

  they differed in many ways but had one thing in commonthey were reductionists who claimed that all higher realms of existence could be explained by lower natural causes.

  they were the pillars of naturalism.. but their ideas were tested during the twentieth century and found wanting.

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  never a jw

  "it is about a FAILED worldview."

  The only worldview that has failed time and time again is the religious one. Science is always progressing, always refining our knowledge and understanding of the universe around us.

  Fundamentalists contribute nothing to the world of science but somehow use it to prove they are right. What???!!! I used to believe that the Bible was junk. Now, after diligent study of its history and formation, I have changed my mind. It's a great book to understand history, culture and religion when you put in its time and historical context. The problem is not the Bible, or any book older than the Bible, but people like Perry who belong to a time 2 or 3 millenia ago. Absolutely frustrating to see people stuck so far into the past!